Don't Expect Logic When You Can Have Tits.

[ivorygates]

You know, something just occurred to me...

The Density is supposed to be farting Stargates into the void, right?

So why are there obviously-ancient old-skool Stargates on The Planet Of The Air-Scrubbers and like that?

Also, what keeps them from dialling home on any of them?

Lastly, if someone else says "We're Not Supposed To Be Here" I shall do something dramatic.

Comments

[lacey]

Please do. At least then there will be something interesting.

[kaballa]

It pleases me that I'm not the only one who keeps spotting huge, glaring holes in the plot and points where the backstory just doesn't hold together.

I'm still watching but I only like Col. Young, and I have a suspicion he might get killed off. I want everyone else to die, they're all decent actors but I loathe the characters. I've gone back to S1 SG-1 and it's impressive how quickly a (relatively) convincing universe and technologies were sketched in, and how distinct the characters were. 5 episodes into 'SG - Ugh, No' and I'm still calling a character "Tits" because I can't remember her name. I know that anything they do will be stupid, because the writers want to keep the characters in an entirely artificial state of constant pretend-peril, like Scooby Doo in Space, instead of having a ship full of highly intelligent people work on a solution.

[ivorygates]

SG:WTF is the ultimate expression of WRITE WHAT YOU KNOW.

I like Greer. If I were stuck on a ship with those people I'd have anger management issues too.

[djaddict]

About the stargate thing. Somewhere in the jumbled mess of the first episode Rush tells someone that Destiny wasn't the first ship. There were others sent out in advance of Destiny that "seeded" supposedly habitable worlds with gates.

[ivorygates]

Um....

So Density isn't the Stargate-pooping ship.

So WTF is it *for* then?

If there's already a Gate-network out there, the Ancients could just go through the Gates [they invented the ZPM; power isn't going to be a problem.]

For that matter, our Intrepid Heroes have Stargate, Kinos, and fingers. Why not go down to one of the many planets they pass and cold-dial until they find a nice one? Or one with a bunch of advanced aliens who can help them GET HOME?

[kitchenklutz]

Wild guess? Escape mechanism from their Ancient-Ori brethren, who'd already driven them out of one galaxy. If you'll recall, apparently the only Gate that had the power to get to Destiny was tapping into the planetary core on whatever-the-hell-that-planet-was-named (Icarus?).

Which also helps clear up why they're not dialing home from any of the planetary 'gates.

[djaddict]

I think it was supposed to be for exploration. Since they can't dial between galaxies without lots of power or a control crystal (according to SGA cannon anyway) the ship gate somehow made it possible.

As for the rest - ya got me!

[twistedchick]

Do they have the place-of-origin symbol anywhere? Or are they doing a repeat of Stargate-the-movie's 'let's guess the symbol'? Because if they have it, yes, they could go back to Earth, or P3X something or other or any number of other places.

Can these people, in other words, find their way out of a paper bag that has not been closed?

[sinanju]

Well, much as I hate defending this show, I'll give them this much, at least--they couldn't dial back to earth.

Reaching another galaxy (and they're many galaxies away) requires far more power than is available on your standard stargate. It requires a ZPM (an Ancient uber-battery) or two. Or a whole planet devoted to powering the gate, as in the pilot of this execrable series.

So they can't just dial home. The ship was running on fumes when they arrived. Or they couldn't before the ship charged up its power cells. They'd damn well better TRY in the next episode, though.

[ivorygates]

Nah... For reasons of plot device, the ship is only charged up to 40% of its possible power.

Seriously, though. I don't believe that crap about them being billyuns and billyuns of galaxies away. The Ancient Communication Stones work just fine, and even though we've seen them used intergalactically [TPTB apparently believe a "galaxy" is something about the size of Ottawa], there are limits...

[catsmeow]

I think the writers keep forgetting which ship their characters are on. Supposedly there were two ships - the unmanned stargate squirter which went out first and a manned ship that followed behind to see where the first ships shat out the gates. BUT in the premiere, the characters made a point of saying that the Destiny had never had a crew which would make it the first ship, The Mighty Gate Squirter. But that statement was also fail because if the Destiny had always been unmanned then why did it have crew quarters, a shuttle, and a life support system that had been turned on?

Just thinking about this show makes my head hurt.

[ivorygates]

and you thought the timeline of the ancients made your head hurt... *g*

i think the dementia praetext of the series is that Density is the ship that was supposed to be crewed, but wasn't crewed because the Ancients had apparently developed ADHD and decided to Ascend instead, forgetting all about their ship. yea verily even though canon tells us that only some of them Ascended and the rest were hanging around Earth into historical times.

[sid]

IG, These Are The Wrong People. :-P

[ivorygates]

Nah... They're just the wrong writers.